Miranda – This is something that I live with through all levels of my experience. Something I realized quite late. I grew up with a black grandfather, so I assumed I could not be racist. Only when I was challenged by a friend who asked me ‘but what about all of the structural racism’? And I realized, yes that is right, I am part of that. That was my big ‘aha moment’ about a decade ago.
Reverend Turner – We worked with Peggy McIntosh, an American feminist, anti-racism activist, scholar, speaker, and Senior Research Scientist of the Wellesley Centers for Women. She always talked about this invisible backpack. Whites walk around with this invisible backpack. The sad truth is that white privilege is something that you operate in every day. Even if you are working towards making society a better place, you walk around with it. You use it unintentionally, but the reality is that you as a white person will always have privileges that I will not have. It is not that you intentionally use those, or unintentionally use those, it just is like that. When I talk about the depth and the width of racism, that becomes a part of your package. This is something we have to realize. You as a white person and me as a black person, even when we are on an equal playing ground, are viewed differently. That is white privilege. That is a part of the package that comes with you as a white person. Now the question is how conscious we become of it, without being awkward. The consciousness that we have of it when we make decisions, or when we all sit at a table together to work together. It is something that you are going to travel with throughout your life. That is not something that you have to be ashamed of, it is just the reality.